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The augustus olivera under was plus 360. I always think a large price on the under in boxing always has some value due to the wierd things that seem to happen.
 

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nahhh...i had a small play on augustus by decision at +190...but that was offset by a parlay with the over.....

no complaints...oliveira looked to be in serious trouble in the eigth...grabbing the back of his head....

i noticed that augustus showed real class by not going back to oliveira`s head after he started acting distressed...

i was yelling at the t.v. for them to stop it....

when the doctor said let it go,i was astounded...

i`d rather lose a small wager than see a guy drop dead..

...teddy missed augustus` humanitarianism because he was running his mouth...

serious kudos to augustus...

that doctor needs a reality check...
 

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if i was betting I would have taken Olivares and a shot with the under. Really liked the African Mtwaba but thought he was behind and lucky to win. Another good price came in on the under at plus 320. Due to a lot of variables I am not playing the minor fights. I still think Tyson under 5-1 was free money even after the fight but for what its worth however I will stick with Jermain Taylor as the bet of the year.
 

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Hilo, I have to disagree with you. Why didnt they go for this fight after DLH. They know that this is their last shot at stardom, because if he beats Hopkins then he is a superstar. I like Taylor alot, but I dont think he is ready for this. Taylor is a future star, but im afraid they are going to ruin this kid. Once Hopkins gets indside and goes to work, I think Taylor will come undone. We know that there is nothing Taylor can do to make Bernard come undone, not even a flash knockdown.
 

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the only thing i think could beat taylor is that taylor may need two more tough fights. i just think the time is right and hopkins body is wearing down. if you have the right call hardcore then i will give you an early big thumbs up incase i get busy and forget after the fight.

i do have some respect for miami trainer pat burns and don't think he would risk his fighter if he wasnt sure.
 

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You may be right. I just think Hopkins has enough left in the tank to give this kid a boxing lesson. I just think they are taking there shot now, because they know this is the best chance they will have at Hopkins. I mean Taylor fights C and D guys, then Joppy, then he jumps up to Hopkins. Taylor is talented, but he hasnt faced any real tough competition. I just think fighting a Joval, Eastman, Allen, or someone of that caliber would have given Taylor the confidence he may need for this. Also, it would give bettors the proper stuff to guage this fight. Taylor has more physical talent, but as we know, there are alot more factors in boxing than physical gifts. If that was the case, than Mosley would still be undefeated.
 

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I toook a shot on the OVER in the Quintana fight last night when it hit 6.5u-160. And again ESPN sticks it in my ass as this bum doesnt answer the bell for RD 7 for no apparent reason.

Quiters in Boxing and Shady ESPN Decisions and endings are pretty much the norm these days. I wonder what meds they have Teddy Atlas on to keep him hush. Must be alotta $$$$$$. :sad3:
 

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jo, didn't you think campos was pretty much wearing down by that time? the way atlas was talking early in the fight quintana was a boxer with no punch and the over was a sure thing.
 

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I toook a shot on the OVER in the Quintana fight last night when it hit 6.5u-160. And again ESPN sticks it in my ass as this bum doesnt answer the bell for RD 7 for no apparent reason.

Quiters in Boxing and Shady ESPN Decisions and endings are pretty much the norm these days. I wonder what meds they have Teddy Atlas on to keep him hush. Must be alotta $$$$$$. :sad3:


I had the under, so obviously I didn't have a problem with the stoppage.

However, I did have a problem with the matchmaking that lead to a short night.

The reason this fight was a mismatch (and the only reason I played the under) is b/c of Quintana's huge size advantage over Campos.

Quintana has fought at 147 for the last 7 years and he's a big welterweight

Campos weighed in at 132 for a fight early last year. He's 33 years old, his frame hasn't grown for 10 years, its not like he outgrew the weight class. I could see him stepping up to 140, but 147 was way to much.

The 15 lbs of natural weight difference was obvious from the start, and it became a huge factor as the fight progressed. IMO Quintana was starting to beat the sh*t out of Campos in the 6th round, and it would've gotten much worse if Campos continued.

It may not have looked like Campos was taking a beating, he was still slipping some punches and throwing back. However, the extreme size advantage had to make it feel worse for Campos than it looked.

I usually wouldn't defend a fighter quiting, but Campos shouldn't have been there in the 1st place and was in danger of getting seriously hurt. The matchmaking in this fight was just as dangerous as Gatti gaining 18 pounds in 24 hrs prior to ending the career of Gamache.

I know Campos and his poeple agreed to the fight, but ESPN or the Cali state boxing commision, or someone should have made the right decision for them.

Speaking of the right decisions, someone has to stop Hearns and Bowe from ever fighting again, before its too late.

Btw, a simple solution to Gatti and Cotto gaining 15 pounds after the weigh-in would be to have another weigh-in a few hours before the fight. If a fighter weighs more than the next weightclass limit, see ya. Gatti and Cotto would have to weigh 147 or less. If they can't do that, they shouln't be fighting at 140 anyway.

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